Top 6 Failure confirmed.

[Accies4ever]

I know this subject has been done to death, but now that our failure to achieve a top 6 has been confirmed, let's just reflect on what has happened since Neil left.

* We were sitting in 3rd position in the league and on 39pts
* Despite losing all 3 of his games in charge as a caretaker manager, including a 5-0 humiliation at Partick, the BoD still thought it a good idea to appoint Canning as the permanent manager. Not just keep him as caretaker, but give him the full-time job despite hee-haw managerial experience.
*Tony Andreu is sold (our most talented and influencial player) and the BoD sign Hasselbaink. Wow, what a replacement.
*Other heavy defeats followed, such as 4-0 against Celtic and Motherwell, 3-0 against Aberdeen and we even managed to hand St Mirren their only home victory of the season.
*The discipline in the side has been appalling. How many red cards and suspensions have we had recently.
* The new "dream" managerial team didn't even last a few months with Swailes leaving the sinking ship. Good riddance to him, I say.
*The other January signing hardly feature including one leaving before even kicking a ball for the 1st team.
*Canning amasses a huge total of 4pts in his 13 games in charge, which doesn't even feature a single win and misses out on a top 6 finish. With Dundee losing today, it would likely have taken a mere 6 pts to secure top 6. Canning and his players couldn't even manage that.
*We are the poorest performing SPL club in the last 13 games, bar none. Not even St Mirren have performed as badly as us and they're getting relegated.

So have we been unlucky. I'm sorry, I believe you make your own luck.
Canning's failure to motivate a team which by the BoD's own admission is 95% the same team is disgusting.
It's been a total f**king disaster under Canning!!!

Major surgery is needed on the team during the close season
This includes:

1....Get an experienced Manager in to take control and can man-motivate the players (if Canning wishes to continue as a player he can, but if the change is not acceptable to him, then he can gladly go)

2....Offload the "passengers" in our team. This includes Mackinnon, Longridge, Scotland, Ryan and a few others. If the January signings are not going to even feature, get rid of them too.

3....The BoD have to realise their reactions during January was paramount to neglect and that their model of the club Ethos isn't infallible.

4....In order to rescue next season and to encourage season ticket sales, the BoD need to act pretty soon and get some decent players in. They don't have to go crazy and blow all the money they've received from 22 and Hendrie, etc, but re-investment some of it in the team.

Anyone out there that still believes that Canning needs more time are frankly off their heads. He'll never make it as a manager and it's about time the BoD realise that their "experiment" has been a massive cock-up and rectify the situation.

I suppose there is one other alternative. We all lower our expectations to such a depth that week on week failure is acceptable and we simply slip down the leagues until we hit rock bottom.
Anyone want to follow a club like that?

[monkeybones]

Terrific and spot on post.

Martin. Be a man, do the right thing for the club and resign as manager.

[H9crx]

Terrific and spot on post.

Martin. Be a man, do the right thing for the club and resign as manager.

This is no Cannzos fault and should not have to step down after getting talked into getting the job!

If the BOD had let him got Loy and a few good players we would be top six, yes canning is not a manager but this is the BoD cock up and they need to grow a set and sort it out or they can GTF.

[Euan]

Good summing up.
I don't feel negative or disloyal as an Accies fan in saying so...just disappointed.
Maybe bottom 6 with no real pressure will allow us to get a win and improve confidence for next season. We should drop those who won't be here and start building next year's team now.

[Accies4ever]

Agree this is all the BoD's fault.

Canning perhaps felt he was pressurised or had to within himself take on the manager' s job.
Can't blame him for taking the opportunity.

But as it's blatantly obvious, Canning is NOT a manager, and it's now up to the BoD to admit that and to rectify the situation.
What's infuriating is that they seem hell bent persisting with this failure of a management team.

It's also the BoD's fault for not securing the players we needed during the window, to get a top 6.
I'm not even saying Loy was the correct player to get in, but there must have been many others to chose from.

All real Accies supporters on here know what now needs to be done, so apart from the very few zombie-minded so-called "loyalists" and apparently the BoD, it's about time they corrected the mistakes they made in January (whether they were made honestly or otherwise).

Question is, do they have the guts to do it.
The Q&A will hopefully give us some answers.

[AmanAccie]

Even Alex Neil wanted Canning to get the job. As a squad we are light when it comes to players that we can call game changers. Don't get me wrong, the change in fortunes has been unforgivable to the extreme. It has been like night and day this season. Reaching beyond our wildest dreams to drop like a stone so hard that some fans are considering not coming back. That would be devastating if it were true but I think our fans have thicker skins than they care to admit. Clearly Canning is the manager regardless of opinion. So where do we go from here? It very much depends on what type of player we can attract next season. Another Alex Neil type midfielder and a decent striker and we could possibly survive the Premiership. Lets not forget where we are because the highs have most certainly brought expectation our way.

[Accies4ever]

Even Alex Neil wanted Canning to get the job. As a squad we are light when it comes to players that we can call game changers. Don't get me wrong, the change in fortunes has been unforgivable to the extreme. It has been like night and day this season. Reaching beyond our wildest dreams to drop like a stone so hard that some fans are considering not coming back. That would be devastating if it were true but I think our fans have thicker skins than they care to admit. Clearly Canning is the manager regardless of opinion. So where do we go from here? It very much depends on what type of player we can attract next season. Another Alex Neil type midfielder and a decent striker and we could possibly survive the Premiership. Lets not forget where we are because the highs have most certainly brought expectation our way.

I reckon Alex suggested Canning as he just wanted to leave without any objections and it suited all concerned.
Alex was an excellent judge of character and if Canning was such a talent, why isn't he currently at Norwich (like Frankie).

The BoD are getting it in the neck big time (and rightly so), but can anyone argue that what has happened is nothing to do with Canning.
No, I didn't think so.

The fact that is obvious now, is Canning is simply not managerial material.
We could have Ronaldo and Messi playing with us and Canning would still struggle.
We need a new experienced manager and new decent players (of the new manager's choice, not the BoD) if we are to avoid relegation next season.

Here's another wee fact that's been lost, mind when Canning was first mentioned regarding the post, how hesitant he was, even though it was a done deal.
Smacks of not having confidence in himself, which we can all now see was spot on.

[really?]

why isn't he currently at Norwich (like Frankie).

watch this space...

[porcupine]

Accies4Ever post pretty well sums it up!

(In tiny mitigation) we lost Andreu in the afternoon of the final transfer window day, though, as our best influential player, the BOD should have had the foresight to consider that Alex Neil would take him to Norwich, and have had some replacement in the wings. Hendrie's deal to WHU was already done at that stage so there WAS money available, whether £400K or £1M.

Nice guy that MC might be, he had demonstrated that he has no management ability to introduce new ideas and tactics. McKinnon is quoted in the Sun today as 'we are training the same as before'. That is EXACTLY the issue. Teams had sussed us out and with a weakened side missing Curier and Andreu, they knew how to eliminate any threat we had before.

Martin Canning must know that he has let himself down, his BOD down, and all who support Accies. Anyone else in this situation, would relinquish his appointment NOW to avoid collateral damage to any future employment in football. This is a fundamental action. It will allow some immediate planning for our second, and hopefully not our last, season in the SPL with a management team with some track record of sucess.

Despite enjoying days out at Glebe Park, Station Park, Somerset Park, etc. etc., I have no desire to be returning there in the next couple of years!!

Like everyone else, and even with the possibilty of finishing our previous best "seventh" place, I see this as a desperately poor finish to the season.

[Accies4ever]

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Please make it so.

Accies4Ever post pretty well sums it up!

(In tiny mitigation) we lost Andreu in the afternoon of the final transfer window day, though, as our best influential player, the BOD should have had the foresight to consider that Alex Neil would take him to Norwich, and have had some replacement in the wings. Hendrie's deal to WHU was already done at that stage so there WAS money available, whether £400K or £1M.

Nice guy that MC might be, he had demonstrated that he has no management ability to introduce new ideas and tactics. McKinnon is quoted in the Sun today as 'we are training the same as before'. That is EXACTLY the issue. Teams had sussed us out and with a weakened side missing Curier and Andreu, they knew how to eliminate any threat we had before.

Martin Canning must know that he has let himself down, his BOD down, and all who support Accies. Anyone else in this situation, would relinquish his appointment NOW to avoid collateral damage to any future employment in football. This is a fundamental action. It will allow some immediate planning for our second, and hopefully not our last, season in the SPL with a management team with some track record of sucess.

Despite enjoying days out at Glebe Park, Station Park, Somerset Park, etc. etc., I have no desire to be returning there in the next couple of years!!

Like everyone else, and even with the possibilty of finishing our previous best "seventh" place, I see this as a desperately poor finish to the season.

2 things.

As you say 22 was a last moment thing, but the BoD should have predicted it happening, like the rest of us did, and have a plan in place....another major failure of the BoD.

It's been literally a season of two halves.
First half...brilliant and beyond our expectations.
Second half.....total meltdown and a disaster.
Anyone (which includes the BoD) that states that it's been a great season, need to look at this statement again.
Firstly the season isn't over but mostly because the 2nd half has been such a major disappointment.

The buck truly stops with the BoD.

[redandwhite1874]

A great season ?

Perhaps not and the second half has indeed been a major disappointment.

However, it looks likely we will retain top flight status for only the third time in a lifetime, and that all three such retentions have been under the current regime.

[Park Materson]

Fcuk all this boring footy shite.
When's the super DOME gonna be ready so we can see some really good boxing bouts.
I'm up for a square go with CANTzo any day of the week.
And I hear from a good source that ULTRAVOX are lined up to he the first to play a gig.

[Accies4ever]

A great season ?

Perhaps not and the second half has indeed been a major disappointment.

However, it looks likely we will retain top flight status for only the third time in a lifetime, and that all three such retentions have been under the current regime.

Yeah, but if you lost a hand in an accident, you wouldn't say "at least I have one hand left".
You'd be moaning about not being able to play the piano again.

[Davie Hogg]

Being bottom 6 gives us a better chance of winning games instead of being pumped by better teams. We have avoided relegation and blooded a new manager so we can start next season strongly and with some new better players. Stop blaming canzo and the board as its the players who have lost the games nobody else.

[Todd_is_God]

Canning *is* one of those players...

The buck stops with the manager when it comes to no wins in 13 im afraid, just like in any other business which is underperforming for a prolonged period.

[Park Materson]

Bullshit.
The bottom six means we get pumped by slightly shittier teams in front of slightly shittier crowds.

[Chase Outlaw]

Being bottom 6 gives us a better chance of winning games instead of being pumped by better teams. We have avoided relegation and blooded a new manager so we can start next season strongly and with some new better players. Stop blaming canzo and the board as its the players who have lost the games nobody else.

Recent games against the bottom 2 in the past month or so went well then?

[Accies4ever]

At the end of the day, we failed to achieve top 6 and it looks likely if not guaranteed that we'll not be relegated, so the quicker the end of the season comes the better.

It's now all about correcting the major judgement mistakes that the board made in January, getting in a decent manager and strengthening the squad for next season.

I'm sure if that's done quickly, we can all concentrate again in simply supporting our team and all this in-fighting will go away.

If it's not done, it's sure going to be interesting here on Walton's mountain.

[Davie Hogg]

we all want to see a winning team and if we win our remaining games we will all be happy. It is imperative we get behind the team even if some of you dislike the BoD.