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Now obviously you can't think big for the new Accies manager but I was thinking about Paul Hartley. He done a great job for Dundee before he went on a bad spell and played for Hamilton. Could be a good pick but discuss what you think.

Canning is definitely staying for the foreseeable future, so is there really any point in talking about this?

In regards to Hartley, Can't say I would take him, he seems to struggle in the premiership, and that's on a bigger budget than what Accies would give him.

Paul Hartley?

Are you serious?

Have a word with yourself.

I'd have thought him a good appointment 3 years ago, when he'd done a good job at Alloa. He's signed some good players, easy given his budget, but failed to produce a good consistent team. I'd rather stick with Canning.

Les Gray described him as a "chequebook Manager".Not a guy who has a track record of bringing youth through,so he would never be entertained here.

This is a pointless thread. a quick google search or at least keeping up with the comments from our board over the past 2 years will show that they are sticking with Canning. Win lose or relegation. End of story.

Presenting any Accies manager with a cheque book would be akin to giving Boris Johnson a comb.

There will be no new manager. MC has kept us up and I believe he has learned a lot this year so hopefully he will be in a better place to do a better job next year.
Absolutely need a decent striker. As Les said earlier in the season he has tried to sign a few last year but our targets get pinched by other cubs. Dont know how we deal with that.

ColinS wrote:There will be no new manager. MC has kept us up and I believe he has learned a lot this year so hopefully he will be in a better place to do a better job next year.
Absolutely need a decent striker. As Les said earlier in the season he has tried to sign a few last year but our targets get pinched by other cubs. Dont know how we deal with that.

Anyone who believed Les at that forum probably still believes in Santa and the tooth fairy.

Bomber Harris wrote:

ColinS wrote:There will be no new manager. MC has kept us up and I believe he has learned a lot this year so hopefully he will be in a better place to do a better job next year.
Absolutely need a decent striker. As Les said earlier in the season he has tried to sign a few last year but our targets get pinched by other cubs. Dont know how we deal with that.

Anyone who believed Les at that forum probably still believes in Santa and the tooth fairy.

Just like anyone who believed that we could win a 2 legged play off was deluded.

I don't see any evidence to doubt what was said at that forum.

Les said he thought we would stay up (at the forum). I was sceptical too, given the results we were having. I also have little doubt that there were many attempts to sign players (within our strict prudent wages policy) and that most fell through. One incident brought out sufficient venom from Les Gray on the way Accies had been treated just the previous day to the fans meeting.

MC has had a vertical learning curve in the last two years and will be there next season without a doubt. We will continue to try to find the odd gem from the dross. Gogic and Skondras are excellent examples of that, amongst some real duds, particularly at the start of last season. It may not be the most pleasant spectator sport on too many occassions, but we are never likely to hear Administration or Receivership in the same sentence as Hamilton Academical.

Remember, doubters, that Falkirk and Dundee United would give their eye teeth to be in our situation for Season 2017/18!

We are punching above our weight, the model has worked, Canning is a success.

Excellent post, porcupine. Next season will be tough again. Tenth and a fifth successive season would be a success (though a cup semi final would be nice too) but that will inevitably mean many defeats. Let's not try to over react after every one. We do punch above our weight and we shouldn't have to apologise for saying it. Our crowds are dire. It will be interesting to see the Season Ticket prices as making them ridiculously cheap (for most, not all!) did nothing to tempt the crowds back. And if folk say it's the Canning effect, our first Alex Neil Premier crowd against Inverness was barely over 1600.

Stevie Clarke wrote:Excellent post, porcupine. Next season will be tough again. Tenth and a fifth successive season would be a success (though a cup semi final would be nice too) but that will inevitably mean many defeats. Let's not try to over react after every one. We do punch above our weight and we shouldn't have to apologise for saying it. Our crowds are dire. It will be interesting to see the Season Ticket prices as making them ridiculously cheap (for most, not all!) did nothing to tempt the crowds back. And if folk say it's the Canning effect, our first Alex Neil Premier crowd against Inverness was barely over 1600.

Our crowds are visibly down from the Neil era . Accies can make up whatever numbers they like .

Burst Baws wrote:We are punching above our weight, the model has worked, Canning is a success.

4th season now in the top flight is hardly punching above our weight now is it Pretty safe to say we're holding our own now punching at a weight we should be. A couple of good signings ie skondras, a good striker and a centre half I would put money on us staying for a 5th. With Gogic, Sarris, Temps and Bingham on board we have the potential to finish mid table safely. Even tho the season has just finished I'm pretty much excited about the next one.

I share your idea that with those players and Skondras, we should be able to compete against all others in the bottom six places, with a settled team, plus a couple of additions. (goal scorer and defender).

WAC wrote:

Stevie Clarke wrote:Excellent post, porcupine. Next season will be tough again. Tenth and a fifth successive season would be a success (though a cup semi final would be nice too) but that will inevitably mean many defeats. Let's not try to over react after every one. We do punch above our weight and we shouldn't have to apologise for saying it. Our crowds are dire. It will be interesting to see the Season Ticket prices as making them ridiculously cheap (for most, not all!) did nothing to tempt the crowds back. And if folk say it's the Canning effect, our first Alex Neil Premier crowd against Inverness was barely over 1600.

Our crowds are visibly down from the Neil era . Accies can make up whatever numbers they like .

Why would they make up such a poor crowd in what was out first match back since 2011? In Alex Neil's first full season, we won four and drew one of our first five matches. The next match was at home to Cowdenbeath and the crowd was 817.

The second home game of 14/15 was against St Johnstone and the crowd was a pathetic 1,577. Do you think Accies wouldn't have liked the crowd to be over 2,000? I've got the dvd of matches from that season that I recorded from Sportscene, Alba etc and you can see that the crowds under Neil were dreadful to begin with. The next home game was against Ross County and the club, obviously embarrassed by the crowds, had some special offer that day, I can't remember exactly what it was and they were rewarded by a much larger crowd of 2,684. We then went top for the first time and got 2,604 against Killie. Crowds stayed high after that with Accies in positions 1-5 until Neil left.

I would concede that I think the Inverness home crowd of this season, the midweek 3-0 win, was embellished a fair bit. Maybe one or two others too. Perhaps counting every season ticket holder, which I'm told they do not do, on a couple of occasions to prevent releasing a crowd just over 1,000 to the media.

Bomber Harris wrote:

Burst Baws wrote:We are punching above our weight, the model has worked, Canning is a success.

4th season now in the top flight is hardly punching above our weight now is it Pretty safe to say we're holding our own now punching at a weight we should be. A couple of good signings ie skondras, a good striker and a centre half I would put money on us staying for a 5th. With Gogic, Sarris, Temps and Bingham on board we have the potential to finish mid table safely. Even tho the season has just finished I'm pretty much excited about the next one.

Clubs with bigger fan bases and budgets continue to go down or fail to go up so I'd say we are still punching above our weight. It's being able to attract half decent signings where again we are not an attractive proposition to many that will be hard but and I'm amazed that we secured Templeton and agree that Skondras and Gogic look great prospects.

I'm mildly optimistic about next year

Getting pretty sick of this punching above our weight pish now.
If I wanted boxing terminology I'd be into the "sport of Kings" but I much prefer the beautiful game.
As mentioned,we are now entering our 4th consecutive top flight season and as such should be ditching all the lowest budget and smallest crowds garbage.
We're not THAT much smaller than a few of our rivals for God's sake.
Ross County are thriving and they play in Emmerdale!

Amoutahere1874 wrote:If I wanted boxing terminology I'd be into the "sport of Kings" but I much prefer the beautiful game.

Horse racing is the sport of kings